Achieving Health in the Smallest Steps Possible with Sid Garza-Hillman



When I first met Sid Garza-Hillman during my book tour last year, I knew we’d get along well. And by get along, I mean poke fun of each other’s quirky ideas and have a good time doing it.

Sid’s approach to health and fitness is all about tiny steps. So much so, that he’s now known by many as the Small Step Advocate. It was a pleasure to talk with him again, and not only discuss how effective the small steps approach is for diet and fitness habits, but also debate some of his other, more unusual philosophies.

As mentioned in the interview, we’re giving away two signed copies of his book Approaching the Natural. To enter, just leave a comment below and we’ll pick two people at random to be announced next week.

Here’s what we talk about in this episode:

  • The small steps approach to habit change from the Small Step Advocate himself
  • How to define how you want to live your life, and how to make that want a reality
  • Why the trampoline could (or could not) be your key to fitness
  • The truth about acid alkaline balance
  • Sid explains his quirky philosophies

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  1. Good podcast! keep up the good work. Although I agree with the small steps approach to habit change, I am having a hard time with the ground movement stuff. But I will search for videos on Youtube like Sid advises.

  2. Arun Kristian Das says:

    I really enjoyed this episode! Especially the part where Sid “won” the argument about rebounding! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I would love to be entered in the drawing for his book, thanks.

  3. I enjoyed the podcast! I’m amused by the fact that ‘jumping on a trampoline’ is called rebounding.

  4. great topic, I’m keen to know how exactly to measure out the small steps.. Had many experiences where I went big and did great for a month but couldn’t continue!

  5. Mike Fallat says:

    Great episode! Loved listening to you two talk (regardless of who won the discussions). I really like Sid’s approach and philosophies. Now pardon me, I have to go grab a tree…(it’s too cold for bare feet!).

  6. John Kormanik says:

    Matt –

    I began listening to your podcast about 3 months ago. I really enjoyed your talk with Sid (he did win all the battles, by the way). As I listened I became intrigued with all of the “out there” things Sid wrote about and would love to learn more by receiving a free copy of his book! (If I don’t win, don’t worry…I’ll likely buy a copy.)

    Keep up the great work!


  7. Rachel Schwartz says:

    GREAT podcast! Really loved hearing all about Sid and what he’s up too to help people. I am also a plant based Nutritionist. I would love to be entered into winning his book! Keep up those podcasts Matt! Inspiring and motivation. ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. I can’t get over protedefiphobia. Definitely adding that to my vocabulary Anyone that asks the protein question again is going to be directed to that article. Thanks Matt and Sid!

  9. Great episode! I’ve been going back and listening to archives and just listened to the episode with Sid from last year. I think you definitely lit your friendship fire. ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. If your child gets in trouble and you yell, “You’re grounded!” does the kid go plug in their grounding sheets?
    Just a little play on words.
    Thanks for the podcast!

  11. So glad you’ll be doing more podcasts! I wait for them lol, ever since I learned you had a podcast from the rich roll podcast.

    See you at the next Woodstock fruit festival too if you choose to go!

  12. Jonathan Zeif says:

    I like walking around barefoot whenever I can just because it feels good, didn’t know there were any particular benefits to it…still not sure what the benefits of grounding are (or the drawbacks of not doing it-maybe the book will explain that)…but it was an interesting podcast nonetheless…

  13. Hi, hope it’s not too late to comment (and be entered). I’ve really enjoyed the interviews with Sid and the whole notion of small steps, I’ve found it really helpful in my life. Was fascinated with the whole notion of “grounding” – as soon as I get home I take my shoes off just because it feels good, and go outside without shoes when I can (and touch trees, etc., I was one of those kids who always was touching things, especially plants) – interesting to know the science behind why this feels so good! Also appreciated the quick n’ easy explanation of alkaline foods; I’ve been intrigued by this but can definitely get a little OCD in my thinking about food so I have deliberately not gone too far into that. Anyway, thanks again!

  14. Lisa Gardner says:

    I really enjoyed this podcast…When I hear people talk about counting calories and dieting I’ll be asking….”Is this the person you are or want to be?” Great episode. Thanks

  15. Scott Larkin says:

    listening to your podcasts helps me at work as im a postman and spend 5 hours a day on the streets, only problem is stopping every 10 mins to send myself a text with a website youve mentioned or idea you given me. great work though guys, listened since the beginning

  16. Enjoyed this episode. Would say more but I suffer from commentpostaphobia!

  17. Great episode. Can’t wait to check out the book!

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